[Spoilers] Rise of the Eldrazi set discussion

[Dark Wolf]

Typical response from the Dragonmaster Outcast among us

[Xanamir]

(2010-04-13 19:40 PM)Dark Wolf Wrote:  Typical response from the Dragonmaster Outcast among us

Hahah, I know, big surprise, right?

And that's totally not the first time somebody's referred to me by that card... which is either awesome, or shameful, depending on your perspective. For me, it's the former.

[browncoat]

(2010-04-13 05:56 AM)Xanamir Wrote:  I don't want to pay the ridiculous cost that I'm sure he'll go for, but I'm really excited to try to build a deck around the new Sarkhan card...

Currently starcity has the preorder price at $20. While that is not cheap, it will probably be higher once people realize how good the card is.

[Dark Wolf]

Maybe I'm missing it, but how is he very very good? He doesn't seem to be to me, but then I've always had a difficult time judging the value of black and red cards. I suppose that stems from them being the colors I use the least.

[Ferridge]

I think hes good, beacuse hes card draw for black and red. And with cards like broodmate dragon and other dragon producers hes a late game cast and win.

[browncoat]

How is Sarkhan the Mad good, let me count the ways:

1. He is a tutor that can generally get at least two cards unless he is attacked.
2. He makes your useless creatures dragons or weakens your opponents huge creatures.
3. He can kill players/planeswalkers if needed.

[Ferridge]

I dont think he tutors Browncoat only draws the top card of your deck.

[browncoat]

Fine, he does not tutor but the additional draw is pretty good. Being a dark confidant that does not make you lose life is very useful. Sorry I tend to exaggerate and not think as much when I have had no sleep.

[Ferridge]

(2010-04-16 00:39 AM)browncoat Wrote:  Fine, he does not tutor but the additional draw is pretty good. Being a dark confidant that does not make you lose life is very useful.

I totally agree If I played more Black / Red decks then i'd probably work on getting a playset.

[valk]

Sarkhan is good. How is he bad? He's 5 casting cost, pretty likely to turn your gobbo or their eldrazi whatever into a dragon, he draws cards and he's badass if you're playing a deck that gets dragons out anyway. Sure, he's a psycho who only dies. But that's red black. You burn up but hopefully they do too, just faster.

That said, I'm going to work on my blue again. Echo mage, training grounds, mnemonic wall and venerated teacher.
Also looking forward to goblin tunneler and surrakar spellblade as a team. hmm....

[Ferridge]

what about killing your own Tuktuk the Explorer with Sarkhan to get a dragon and the goblin token...

[valk]

Now that's pretty nasty.
I reckon there's some fun stuff to try in this expansion.

Trying to put together a list based on:
4x Surrakar Spellblade
4x Echo Mage
3x Venerated Teacher
2x Mnemonic Wall

3x Regress
4x Distortion Strike
3x Twitch
3x Into the Roil
3x Training grounds

Use the Surrakar, and bump out blockers with regress, twitch and into the roil, but you can be more defensive and use the bounce to keep your stuff safe from removal if you're facing a bit of it. Then throw in some black or white control?